Chris Anderson: Karoline Leavitt Isn’t Rosalia (and Other Inconvenient Truths)

Impolitic with John Heilemann

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Politics, News

4.8 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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John welcomes celebrated photojournalist Christopher Anderson to discuss the controversy over his portraits of Donald Trump’s inner circle in Vanity Fair. Anderson explains his trepidation over taking the assignment and his approach to it once he did; why the outrage over his pictures in some quarters is a result of a growing confusion between political figures and celebrities, the proliferation of photo filters and A.I. image distortion on social media, and a lack of comprehension that photojournalism is, in fact, journalism; and why no one should be shocked that he didn’t conceal signs of Karoline Leavitt's cosmetic enhancements or shoot Stephen Miller as if he were Brad Pitt (beyond the obvious, that is). See all the ways bp is investing in America at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bp.com/InvestingInAmerica⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ . To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:06.2	Aloha and namaste, everyone, and welcome to Impolitic with John Heilman, a puck and
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1:11.5	featuring lively, in-depth conversations with the people who cruised the corridor's power in America,
1:15.8	sculpting and shaping the ebb and flow of our politics and culture.
1:19.5	In late October, 1976, not long before the presidential election,
1:22.7	that definitively brought down the curtain on the era of Richard Nixon and Watergate,
1:26.9	with Jimmy Carter's narrow
1:28.0	victory over Nixon's successor and partner Gerald Ford. Rolling Stone published one of the most
1:33.9	revered portfolios of political portraiture ever conjured. Entitled the family, the collection
1:39.8	consisted of 69 black and white images by Richard Avedon.
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