Hi, I'm Susie Larson.

Thanks for listening to this podcast from Susie Larson Live.

It's only just a matter around.

Welcome to Sissy he's always honored to spend this time with you.

In fact, I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk, the deep in your understanding of God's word, and that heightens your awareness of his very real presence in your life. We have an important show for you today. So here's a question to start us off.

What comes to mind when you think about heaven? What comes to mind when you think about heaven?

Did you know that the honest answer for many people sounds a bit like this? Fog machines,

harps, white togas, and never-ending church service.

Think about that.

If many people, including Christians, really think that this life is actually better than

the one that's to come, well, we'll live as though this life is all there is.

And doesn't it sort of seem like that's the case?

But what if heaven is wonderful beyond your wildest imagination?

And what if how you lived here directly impacts how you live there?

I'm so honored to welcome back to the show.

Chip Ingram, he joins me today to talk about his important book, the real heaven, what the Bible actually says.

And I just got to say it's so gracious of him to join us because he's got a lot going on, this book released some time ago.

But to me, it's one of the best books on heaven I've ever read.

We're going to get him on in just a moment.

Just a quick announcement, only a few days left to sign up for our online study.

This summer study, we're going to be working through my book, fully alive,

learning to flourish, mind, body, and spirit.

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