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🗓️ 14 November 2022
⏱️ 40 minutes
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'Rural migrants are pretty smart... Yes they are victims… but at the same time, they are also weighing their options, they’re also strategising. They’re not just passive.'
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0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. Absolutely free. Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash voucher. |
0:31.4 | Hello and welcome to Chinese Whispers with me, Cindy Yu. Every episode, I'll be talking to |
0:36.3 | journalists, experts and long-time China |
0:38.2 | watchers about the latest in Chinese politics, society and more. There'll be a smattering |
0:43.4 | of history to catch you up on the background knowledge and some context as well. How do the |
0:47.8 | Chinese see these issues? When Zhengzhou, home to the world's largest iPhone factory, locked down recently. Some of its factory workers had nowhere to go. |
0:58.3 | Hoping to escape COVID restrictions, many of them walked miles along motorways to their hometowns. |
1:03.6 | Their journey captured by video and shared on social media in China and out. |
1:08.0 | This episode is all about China's migrant working class, poorly paid and often |
1:12.3 | poorly educated people from the countryside who go to cities like Zhengzhou for better lives. |
1:17.0 | There are hundreds of millions of these so-called internal migrants, making their story an |
1:21.7 | important part to understand if you want to understand modern China. What are their lives like? |
1:27.1 | I'm joined today by UCLA's Professor Cindy |
1:29.3 | Fan, an expert in migration and population patterns. Cindy, thanks so much for coming on to Chinese |
1:34.9 | whispers. First of all, I just wanted to check the numbers with you, because I saw one estimate that there |
1:39.7 | were 250 million internal migrants in China in 2015. At that point, that was a sixth of the population. |
1:47.0 | Is that number still up to date? Well, yes, first of all, Cindy, it's really wonderful to be on |
1:53.0 | your program. And to your question, yes, there are various estimates that people have come up with, |
1:57.9 | but 250 million sounds about right. And I would say that between |
2:03.0 | 2015 and now, that number may have actually increased even some more. And I mean, this is just an |
2:09.9 | incredibly large population because I'm speaking to you from London, and that's more than four |
2:14.7 | times the population of the UK. And these are people, I want to talk in this |
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