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about the foreign policy challenges facing the United States. I'm Jim Lindsay, Director of Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.

This week's topic is China's underground historians. With me to discuss how Chinese filmmakers,

journalists, and artists are challenging the Communist Party's version of China's history

is Ian Johnson. Ian is the Stephen A. Schwartzman Senior Fellow for China Studies here at the

Council on Foreign Relations. A journalist by training, Ian won a Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of

China for the Wall Street Journal. His extensive writings include several

books, including one that hit bookstore shelves today, sparks, China's underground historians

in their battle for the future. Ian also has a provocative piece in the latest issue of foreign affairs

titled She's Age of Stagnation.

Ian, congratulations on the publication of Sparks in your Foreign Affairs article, and thank you

for coming back on the president's inbox.

Well, thank you very much.

It's an honor to be on the show.

Now, Ian, before we begin discussing how the Chinese Communist Party's monopoly on history is being challenged from below,

I want to let listeners know how they can win a free copy of Sparks.

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