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From KQED. Welcome to Forum. I'm Alexis Madrivel. The United States is acting more and more like a petro state.

Because of our massive gas reserves, perhaps, not to mention our massive oil and gas industry,

the U.S. has not moved nearly as quickly as some nations to change our energy mix to move away from fossil fuels.

This, despite the undeniable reality that climate change caused by human beings burning

fossil fuels is deranging the atmosphere and will cause continued global warming and sea

level rise.

China, which has risen as an industrial power through the massive use of coal, has begun

to deploy an almost unbelievable number of solar panels and wind turbines.

Right now, both countries get roughly the same amount of their power for renewables,

but unless something changes very quickly, the U.S. will lag far behind by the end of the Trump

administration.

Here to talk about all these dynamics, we're joined by Jeremy Wallace, professor of China

Studies at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

Wallace writes the China Lab newsletter and his most recent article for Wired is titled,

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