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I just hosted a conversation at the Michael V. Hayden Center at George Mason University on China.

Our guest were Harvard's Graham Allison, Johns Hopkins Hal Brands, and George Mason's Ketian Zhang.

We'll be right back with that conversation. I'm Michael Morel, and this is Intelligence Matters.

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All three of you have thought about and written extensively on China, and I'm really looking forward to this conversation.

The three of you know, the audience doesn't know, but the three of you know that I want to ask five basic but very strategic questions.

See where we get similar views and see where we get differences of opinion. We will rotate, who gets to go first, as we go through the questions.

For the first three questions, one of our panelists will take the lead with the other two commenting with a bit more time for the person in the lead, and for the last two questions everyone will get equal time.

So I want to kick it off here with the first question, which is what are China's ambitions in the world and what is the source of those ambitions?

In other words, what does China want the world order to look like and what is behind that desire? Graham, we're going to start with this one.

So thank you Michael, and let me say thank you to the other members of the panel, and especially to Mike Able, with a great honor to be part of the whole discussion.

So here question about China's ambitions, I would say could hardly be clearer in one line what she's China wants is to make China great again.

Now that banner he unfurled when he became president, almost five years before Trump at his analog about making America great again.

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