Hope for the best.

the worst.

Expect the worst.

Some drink champagne, some die of furs.

A-a-furs.

No way of knowing which way it's going.

Hope for the best expect the worst.

So for the band. Welcome to the commentary magazine daily

podcast. This is one in a series of special

podcasts we're doing during our vacation break. I'm here with executive editor Abe

Greenwald. Hi Abe. Hi, Abe. Hi, John. And we are joined today by our old friend

Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute and director of its Quantum Alliance

initiative, Arthur Herman, who has been writing for commentary for two decades. Something like that. I'm like that author of many many books I can't even

begin to enumerate them. Freedom's forge how American business produced victory in

World War II, a series of books on who created modern civilization, and we're thrilled to have him with us today to discuss his very important piece in our July, August issue.

China and artificial intelligence, the Cold War, we're not fighting.

So Arthur, Abe and I, I certainly very Luddite in the artificial intelligence sphere.

Scared, worried, afraid of it, would like it to go away, wished it never existed, that kind of thing.

And you, I think, are harnessing some of that feeling to try to warn the American people and Congress and everybody

within earshot that we may have these ideas and these attitudes, but that we better not or we better get over them in some sense because if America doesn't start moving very, very quickly and very

seriously to seek to dominate the field of artificial intelligence, we are in a, we are right now losing the early stages,

or might be losing the early stages of the artificial intelligence war to our 21st century

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