“China is now Putin’s master” – Ex-defence secretary Ben Wallace speaks

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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🗓️ 22 May 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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As Defence Secretary, former Scots Guard Ben Wallace was one of few well-respected ministers during the Johnson years. In office he faced the Afghanistan withdrawal and Russia’s war on Ukraine. As he prepares to leave Parliament, he tells Oz Katerji why Europe must re-arm to support Ukraine and deter Putin’s Russia; how Netanyahu has over-extended Israel in its war with Hamas; and why China is now the economic master of Russia. Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production Podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi all how we doing afternoon afternoon let's get this meeting meeting meeting
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0:29.8	K slash claims. As Russia launches fresh attacks on Ukraine, Vladimir Putin returns from meeting his counterpart
0:41.4	of Xi Jinping and China, and war in Gaza continues with a ceasefire
0:46.3	agreement yet to be reached. Western governments face calls to re-evaluate their security
0:52.0	strategy in a dangerous new world.
0:56.3	In today's episode, we'll speak to the former UK Secretary of State for Defense, Ben Wallace, on how Britain and its allies can navigate these troubled
1:06.1	waters. I'm Oz Kataji and this is not a drill. Today's guest Ben Wallace MP served as Secretary
1:38.9	of State for UK Defence from 2019 to 2023 and was widely praised for his role in Britain's
1:46.7	commitment to supporting Ukraine after Russia's full-scale invasion in
1:51.4	2022. I joined him over a video call last week to hear
1:56.1	how Western leaders can overcome the recent struggles over aid to Ukraine and how
2:02.0	Europe can best prepare to deter Putin's expansionist regime.
2:07.0	We also discuss the Middle East, China and foreign policy in a divided world.
2:13.2	Here's my interview with Ben Wallace MP.
2:18.5	Thank you so much for joining us Ben.
2:20.0	It's a pleasure to have you on the show.
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