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The Wargame

China - A Battle of Values | Grey Zone Ep 7

The Wargame

Sky News

News, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This episode explores a global battle of values between China and leading democracies over issues like Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang.It’s being fought with an array of covert weapons, from cyber attacks and information operations to economic coercion and even something called “lawfare”.Allegations of such behaviour are made and denied by both sides, which of course is to be expected - in the grey zone.Guests:Tom Tugendhat, Conservative MP, chair of the Foreign Affairs CommitteeMatthew Turpin, visiting fellow, Hoover InstitutionCharlie Parton, former British diplomat, senior fellow at the Royal United Services InstituteDr Shi Yinhong, Director of the Academic Committee of the School of International Studies and US Research Center of Renmin University in BeijingNathan Law, pro-democracy activist from Hong KongJulie Marionneau, research fellow, Policy ExchangeFreddy Lim, Taiwanese politician, lead singer of heavy-metal band ChthonicAlexander Downer, former Australian foreign ministerPuma Shen, assistant professor at National Taipei UniversityChinese embassy in London – via email statementCredits:Written and narrated by Deborah Haynes Edited and produced by Chris ScottProduction support from Michael GreenfieldThe head of Sky News Radio is Dave Terris

Transcript

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0:00.0

A radio message from Taiwan,

0:07.4

warned approaching Chinese warplanes to turn around.

0:12.1

Juvented our air defense identification zone, an Air Force official said, leave immediately.

0:19.4

Such incursions are an increasingly familiar routine.

0:23.7

But the size of the Chinese show of strength in late January 2021 was unusually large.

0:35.0

Beijing said the drills were designed to send a warning to anyone seeking independence for Taiwan,

0:42.2

which is regarded by China as a breakaway province, though the island's democratically elected government

0:48.8

has a close security relationship with the United States.

0:52.7

That is potentially a very dangerous flashpoint.

0:55.8

And it's a more dangerous flashpoint today than it was two or three years ago.

0:59.9

The aerial action around Taiwan also coincided with the deployment of a powerful US aircraft carrier

1:07.2

group into the South China Sea.

1:11.1

The use of military power, such as the deployment of warplanes or ships, close to, or even

1:17.9

inside, the airspace or territorial waters of an opponent, is one of the most openly aggressive

1:24.6

tools states can use against each other in the grey zone.

1:28.3

It raises the risk of a miscalculation or accident that could ignite a real war.

1:35.3

The status of Taiwan is one of an array of frictions between China's ruling Communist Party and the United States.

1:45.0

Think the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong,

1:49.0

China's Uyghur Muslim minority in Xinjiang province,

1:53.0

or suspicion around the origin of the coronavirus pandemic.

1:58.0

It's creating a global battle of values, democracy against authoritarianism,

2:04.6

and it's being fought with an array of covert weapons,

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