It's usually pretty easy to record your voice and play it back later over speakers or headphones.

It's a bit trickier to capture and then listen to your true, wise, inner voice.

That voice can be elusive.

It's DePresh Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Music I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here. My guest this week is Cheryl Strayed. She's the author most famously of the memoir, Wild from Lost to Found on the Pacific Crest Trail. Wild is about the 1,100-mile hike that Cheryl took in

1995. It came about following her mother's death, Cheryl's deep depression and heroin use,

and a sense that her life felt out of control. The book was turned into a 2014 movie starring

Reese Witherspoon as Cheryl.

Cheryl Strait is also the author of Tiny Beautiful Things.

It's a book that's a series of essays taken from her advice column, Dear Sugar.

Tiny Beautiful Things has been adapted into a scripted television series of the same name,

now on Hulu.

It stars Sarah Pidgeon as a younger version of Cheryl, called Claire in the series of the same name, now on Hulu. It stars Sarah Pidgeon as a younger version of

Cheryl, called Claire in the series, and Catherine Hahn as contemporary Claire when she's about to turn

50. Younger Claire has a life a lot like what Cheryl's life was when she was younger. The present-day

Claire's life is what Cheryl's life might have been

had she made some pretty different choices. I talked to Cheryl Strait about the show,

about choices, and about which inner voices to listen to.

Music Cheryl Strait, welcome to Depression Mode.

It's wonderful to be here, John.

Thank you for having me.

I binged tiny beautiful things, and I genuinely laughed and cried.

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