Hey, it's John Moe. You know, it's Thanksgiving week, so we're taking a little time off to, you know, bake pies and mashed potatoes and put buckles on our hats like the Pilgrims do. Thanksgiving stuff. So today we're going to re-air one of our favorite recent episodes. It's the author Cheryl Strayed from May of this year. I think you'll enjoy it, and we'll be back next week with a new show featuring

Roxanne Gay. Happy Thanksgiving. It's usually pretty easy to record your voice and play it back

later over speakers or headphones. It's a bit trickier to capture and then listen to your true, wise, inner voice.

That voice can be elusive.

It's DePreshmode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

My guest this week is Cheryl Strait.

She's the author, most famously, of the memoir, Wild, from Lost to Found on the Pacific

Crest Trail.

Wild is about the 1,100 mile hike that Cheryl took in 1995.

It came about following her mother's death, Cheryl's deep depression and heroin use,

and a sense that her life felt out of control. The book was turned into a 2014 movie starring

Reese Witherspoon as Cheryl. Cheryl Strait is also the author of Tiny Beautiful Things. It's a book

that's a series of essays taken from her advice column, Dear Sugar. Tiny Beautiful Things. It's a book that's a series of essays taken from her advice

column, Dear Sugar. Tiny Beautiful Things has been adapted into a scripted television series of the same

name, now on Hulu. It stars Sarah Pidgeon as a younger version of Cheryl, called Claire in the series,

and Catherine Hahn as contemporary Claire when she's about

to turn 50. Younger Claire has a life a lot like what Cheryl's life was when she was younger.

The present-day Claire's life is what Cheryl's life might have been had she made some pretty

different choices. I talked to Cheryl Strait about the show, about choices,

and about which inner voices to listen to.

Cheryl Strait, welcome to Depression Mode.

It's wonderful to be here, John.

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