Chef Jeremy Fox moves from vegetables to meat

Good Food

KCRW

Society & Culture

4.5 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Passionfruit, overlapping food crises, and what federal spending cuts mean for local food banks

Seven years after chef Jeremy Fox released On Vegetables, he offers a cookbook with a different focus, On Meat.
Michael Flood of the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank explains what the massive cuts to SNAP, USAID, and DOGE mean for local food assistance programs.
Dr. Stuart Gillespie analyzes the cascade of overlapping crises impacting our food system — and he proposes solutions.
At the farmers market, passionfruit from Carpinteria goes into an LA mole.

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0:00.0	From KCRW, I'm Evan Klyman and you are listening to Good Food.
0:05.4	The last time we talked to Jeremy Fox, it was for his seminal cookbook on vegetables,
0:10.8	which Food and Wine named one of the best cookbooks of all time.
0:15.0	But despite the title, Fox's cooking is quite omnivorous.
0:20.0	He famously led the kitchen at Ubuntu, the acclaimed Northern
0:24.8	California vegetarian restaurant with an adjacent yoga studio. That was followed by four years
0:31.2	at Michelin-starred Manresa and an interview to work for Paul Bertoli's salumi company.
0:38.9	Locally, we know him as the chef owner of Bertie G's and Rustic Canyon.
0:43.7	Now he's out with a follow-up to his vegetable-centric book,
0:47.2	and naturally, it is called On Meat.
0:51.4	Hi, Jeremy.
0:52.7	Hi, Evan. How are you?
0:56.6	I'm great. I'm so happy that you're here.
1:03.6	The first recipe that you share is for bacon right after sharing that you're not a hype man and it wouldn't be in your meat top 10, which seems like a very Jeremy Fox thing to do.
1:09.6	Give us some thoughts on bacon and why you decided
1:12.8	to start there. I think just to get it out of the way because it feels like in meat circles,
1:20.8	people who are obsessed with meat are by design obsessed with bacon. And a lot of times I've heard bacon refer to as the gateway meat.
1:31.3	So I just wanted to get out of the way. And that seemed like a good way to do it,
1:35.1	kind of like I did a grilled cheese to start on vegetables. It felt like kind of doing something
1:41.0	a little different on meat made sense as well.
1:44.9	You know, it's so funny that you said that for many people, it's sort of a gateway for many
1:49.7	vegetarians, it's like a gateway. For me, my gateway, after my spate of vegetarianism in my
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