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If I meet somebody and they're like, oh, you're, you're,'re uh I saw you on cooking

you're Chef Jarvis like yeah they're like oh yeah I'm a chef too I immediately look at

their hands that's the first thing I do what do you see in the in a chef's hands

I see scars I see pain I hands. I see scars, I see pain, I see stories, I see tattoos, other forms of

masochism. I see things that would have kicked anybody else out of this industry, but

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