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This is the Tom Harbin program.

Welcome to our program on the line with us is Phil Etner, the veteran war correspondent who is now

based in Kiev, Ukraine. You can find his video blog where he posts a far more regular than he

peers here on this program over on YouTube. Just to look for his name, Philip Etner, it's a PHI, LIP,

ITT, NER. And that's also his Twitter handle. Hey Phil, welcome back to the program. So first off,

how are you and how's Kiev?

Kiev is fine. It's still, you know, standing, still resisting. We've had a couple of rough nights here,

three in fact, where Russia has been sending large amounts of munitions, but the air defense

systems are holding. Sadly, though once they knock drones or cruise missiles, as in the case of

last night, some 20 drones were shot at us, two cruise missiles, even when air defense shoots

them out of the sky, they're still a danger because the debris comes cascading down. And last

I checked before beginning to speak with you, Tom, we had two folks wounded last night, you know,

from from debris falling earlier. There have been reports of deaths, but it looks like it was

just wounded. So they keep hitting us, but we keep resisting.

Right. So we just had a NATO meeting and Kiev has been, excuse me, Ukraine has been put on a

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