You've got got that sort of starting energy you got that sort of starting energy you've got the starting energy. You've got that sort of starting energy. You've got the starting energy.

But we go with small starting energy these days.

No, no, big starting energy. Big energy. Okay.

Ed, you've brought a friend to the chattaroo.

And what a friend!

What a friend!

And in person?

An esteemed friend!

Not...

No, no Zumery here.

No.

It's Lauren Child, the gasps of the audience.

Charlie and Lola, Clarice Bean, Ruby Redford, former children's laureate, and my friend.

Yes, really nice to be here. How do you know each other?

Through Justine. Ah yes. All roads lead to Justin. Yeah.

Thanks for coming over this morning. We were just said before we got started, it's just, it's nice to not do Zoom sometimes, isn't it? I think we've all become so accustomed to staring into screens. It. Exactly. I hate Zoom.

It makes me very anxious.

And then what happens is you start looking at yourself

and then you become obsessed with what you look like, and it's terrifying. Have you gone down the slippery slope of using filters?

No, though I do sometimes point a very, very bright light at myself because that can flattens out.

Yes, yes.

But it's so disturbing and then someone told me you can switch yourself off.

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