Now I'm delighted to say that on the chattaroo we have some

say that on the chattaroo we have someone who I can only describe as progressive royalty is that one way of describing you will happen?

Progressive royalty I mean I you know I really don't know describing you will

will happen aggressive royalty I mean I you know I really don't know what to make of that one

He is a

brilliant thinker, thinker, an outstanding advocate and an incredibly nice

bloke and my really good friend and he has written a really interesting and worthwhile and important new book.

Will Hutton, thank you so much for joining us.

It's a pleasure to be here, Ed.

And thank you, Jeff.

And you know, honestly, for those who know Will Hutton, well,

he was only 15 minutes late to this interview, which

is sort of remarkable.

Now, the book has got a very intriguing title, which you toldake, How to Remake, I did need to sort of quite taken aback.

The book is called This Time No Mistakes How to remake Britain.

I did say to you the other night because I happened to run into you in the Arsenal

game. Were you talking about Arsenal? You said this time no mistakes. But you were talking about Arsenal.

That was for five no, wasn't it?

Talk to us about why the book is called this time, no mistakes.

Well there are two targets with that title.

I mean the overwhelmingly important target is really and the whole body of ideas.

I don't know whether your listeners are kind of across Laysay Fair economics or free market economics.

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