Chatter: The Global Citizenship Industry with Kristin Surak
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 8 February 2024
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
Some people call it "investor citizenship" while others label it a "passport for sale" scheme. Either way, the last few decades have seen the global citizenship industry grow and evolve in ways that both reflect and impact issues around national sovereignty, tax regimes, international business, and global inequities.
David Priess chatted about these and related issues with political sociologist and author Kristin Surak, whose recent book The Golden Passport takes a multidisciplinary look at global mobility for the wealthy and the complex system that has developed around it. They discussed the new "most powerful passport" rankings, the types of people who seek different citizenship through investment, Turkey's rise as a major Citizenship By Investment (CBI) player, the rise and fall of the program in Cyprus, how intermediary companies power the CBI system, the trailblazing CBI role of St. Kitts and Nevis, the challenges of European countries attempting to start and keep CBI programs, differing perceptions of CBI around the world, issues of equity and ethics, and the recent phenomena of digital nomads.
Among the works mentioned in this episode:
"The Henley Passport Index", Henley & Partners
The book The Golden Passport: Global Mobility for Millionaires by Kristin Surak
The book Moneyland by Oliver Bullough
The book Making Tea, Making Japan by Kristin Surak
The book The Despot's Guide to Wealth Management by J. C. Sharman
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| 0:56.4 | visit Iuk.K'm David Prius. This week, political sociologist and author Kristen Surac on the global citizenship industry. |
| 1:17.0 | The rights we have as citizens, we often think about them in terms of what we get inside a country. But being a citizen of a country also gets |
| 1:25.3 | you benefits outside of a country in third countries. Basically what governments require is either a donation to the government or a particular |
| 1:35.7 | investment in the country. |
| 1:37.2 | You do that, you go through some background checks, you can usually bring your family members |
| 1:41.0 | on as well, and then typically somewhere between three months to a year |
| 1:44.9 | you can become a citizen in the country sometimes without ever having to visit. |
| 1:51.2 | When I was in Montenegro I'd be like oh oh yeah, Citizen-By Investment, what do you think they'd say, |
| 1:55.6 | oh, the government's so corrupt? I would ask them, what do you think of this concept of selling citizenship? |
| 2:01.0 | And even then a lot of people would answer, well, you know, what else do we have? |
| 2:10.8 | Kristen Surak, welcome to Chatter. |
| 2:13.0 | Thanks very much for having me on. |
| 2:15.0 | A few weeks ago, I saw an updated listing of the world's, what they called the world's most powerful |
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