Chatter Archive: Spy Movies with John Sipher
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🗓️ 28 December 2023
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
This week, we're taking time off for the holidays, so we reached into the Chatter archives for one of our favorites.
In this episode from January 13, 2022, Shane Harris and David Priess teamed up to talk with John Sipher, a former senior intelligence officer who has gone Hollywood. With his partners at Spycraft Entertainment, John is bringing compelling and, yes, accurate stories about espionage to the screen. Before working in the entertainment industry, he spent 28 years in the CIA, where he served multiple overseas tours as a chief of station. Shane, David, and John talked about their favorite spy movies, the fine line between the espionage and action-adventure genres, and the kinds of stories they’d like to see more of.
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| 0:32.0 | Welcome to Chatter. I'm David Priest. This week we're taking time off for the holidays, |
| 0:37.0 | so we reached into the Chatter Archives for one of our favorite episodes. |
| 0:41.0 | In January 2022, Shane Harris and I co-hosted John |
| 0:44.5 | Seifer, a former senior intelligence officer who has gone Hollywood to discuss our |
| 0:49.2 | favorite spy movies, the fine line between the espionage and the action adventure genres, and the kinds of stories we'd like to see more of. |
| 0:57.0 | Enjoy this episode and happy holidays. |
| 1:00.0 | John Seifer, welcome to Chatter. |
| 1:04.0 | Thank you. |
| 1:05.0 | It's great to be here. |
| 1:06.0 | You are here in the studio, and this is a first, by the way, that David Priests and I are together |
| 1:11.0 | in the studio doing an episode. A joint interview. It's been done |
| 1:15.9 | before I understand but it's happened. Not on channel. |
| 1:18.3 | So you guys are going to team up on me. So the plan originally I think was to have |
| 1:21.6 | Alex Finley and on his well. |
| 1:23.2 | So a couple of ops officers against a couple of nerds and we had a chance of actually |
| 1:27.2 | winning that. |
| 1:28.2 | Well I tell you what. |
| 1:29.4 | I tell you what I tell you what I tell you what. |
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