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Tech Won't Save Us

ChatGPT Is Not Intelligent w/ Emily M. Bender

Tech Won't Save Us

Paris Marx

Silicon Valley, Books, Technology, Arts, Future, Tech Criticism, Socialism, Paris Marx, News, Criticism, Tech News, Politics

4.8626 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Paris Marx is joined by Emily M. Bender to discuss what it means to say that ChatGPT is a “stochastic parrot,” why Elon Musk is calling to pause AI development, and how the tech industry uses language to trick us into buying its narratives about technology. Emily M. Bender is a professor in the Department of Linguistics at the University of Washington and the Faculty Director of the Computational Linguistics Master’s Program. She’s also the director of the Computational Linguistics Lab...

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0:00.0

This is a tool.

0:01.2

It's technology.

0:01.9

Is your hammer loyal?

0:03.5

Right?

0:03.7

Is your car loyal?

0:05.2

Like that doesn't mean anything.

0:06.5

But it's part of this narrative of AIs are separate autonomous thinking agents that are maybe now in their infancy.

0:13.6

And so we have to nurture them and raise them right.

0:16.0

And then they become things where we can displace accountability to those things instead of keeping the accountability where it belongs.

0:40.5

Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

0:41.7

I'm your host, Paris Marks.

0:45.6

And before we get into this week's episode, just a reminder that this month, April of 2023, is the third birthday of Tech Won't Save Us.

0:49.0

It's hard to believe.

0:49.9

It's been that long.

0:51.0

And to celebrate, we're asking listeners like you, listeners who enjoy the show, who learn from these critical conversations that we have every week, to consider becoming a supporter over on patreon.com so that we can keep doing this work so that I can keep doing the research that's necessary to have these in-depth conversations with the experts who come on the show week in and week out so that Eric can

1:11.6

keep putting it together and making it sound as good as it does. And so that Bridget can keep making

1:16.9

the transcripts of these episodes. That all depends on support from listeners like you. And that's

1:22.5

why this month we've set a goal that if we get 200 new supporters over on patreon.com this month, or if people

1:28.8

upgrade their pledges to help us get to that number, then I'll start working on a special

1:33.1

series on Elon Musk that digs into his history, you know, how he built up this myth of himself

1:39.1

as this kind of genius founder that was delivering us the future, and how that has all kind

1:44.1

of imploded over the

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