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🗓️ 7 December 2025
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Donald Trump—or at least the tech guys who have his ear—is ready to clear the regulatory runway for A.I. but other Republicans aren’t too sure. Can he bring them around? Or will the bubble burst first?
Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter for the Washington Post.
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| 1:08.5 | The tech industry and its allies in Washington were lobbying hard to have something called AI preemption added to it, |
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