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The Dave Chang Show

Chasing Perfection With Ben Shewry

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Dave and Chris talk about knowing when a dish is ready to be put on the menu. Chris then interviews Ben Shewry of Attica in Melbourne, Australia, and they talk about their years of friendship, kitchen culture, and Ben's obsessive pursuit of perfection. Dave and Chris finish the episode with a gauntlet being thrown and a future challenge promised. Host: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guests: Ben Shewry Video/Audio Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Majordomo Media Producers: Kelsey Rearden and David Meyer Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode is presented by Vital Farms.

0:03.1

Look, when it comes to cooking, I say it all the time.

0:07.6

You are only as good as your ingredients.

0:10.5

That's why you've got to use Vital Farms.

0:13.8

Their eggs are legit.

0:16.3

The hens get to roam around outside, forage and grass and feel the sunshine.

0:22.5

And you can trace your eggs back to the farm they came from. Seriously, you can see an actual video of the actual farm where your

0:28.6

eggs were laid on their website. Whether you're poaching eggs for breakfast or folding them into

0:34.4

something like a souffle, reach for Vital Farms.

0:38.0

You'll love the taste.

0:39.3

Look for the black carton in the egg aisle

0:41.6

and visit VitalFarms.com to learn more.

0:46.3

Dave here, just give you a run out

0:47.6

what we're gonna talk about today.

0:48.8

We're gonna do a little musings about the idea of perfection

0:52.1

and what a dish truly needs to make it to the menu,

0:56.3

then Chris and I are going to talk a little bit about some kind of cookie thing.

1:00.6

I don't know why you're laughing.

1:02.1

I mean, there's nothing funny about it.

1:03.8

It's a very serious endeavor we're going to talk about.

1:05.8

I think I was gone.

1:08.1

I had to deal with some medical issues again, but while I was gone, Chris

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