You want edgy, not dodgy.

And I was like, you know, and I was like, that's brilliant.

That is what I say now to my friends or to my young friends, especially, I'm like, there's such a difference.

Like, of course, edgy is cool.

Like, dodgy is a whole other thing, a whole other kind of beast that you don't want.

Let it out. Let it go Hi, I have a conversation with Le Leon Nise and she recently released a record

called Brudex, which has a great anecdote about the title, which she didn't tell on this,

and I want to tell you in a second, but you might recognize her song, Charm Attack. It came out in

I think maybe 2000, I think, maybe 2000.

So in the early 2000s.

So basically, she needed a name for the record.

She had this collection of songs, and she happened to be reading the New York Times.

And she read this article about cicadas.

And there's this mythic, thrilling quality to cicadas that I didn't know

about maybe you do but basically they only emerge after about a decade and a

half where they spend their time underground, developing, growing, and then they emerge and emit a sound unlike anything else on earth.

And so midway through making this record in 2021, she, you know, needed the title and she read this article.

And it's called Brood X because... In 2021, she, you know, needed the title and she read this article.

And it's called Brood X because this family of cicadas that was due to emerge along the East Coast, also where she is, she's in New York.

And they were emerging for the first time since 2004, which is the same year she'd released her last album. And in the year since, she's been processing a lot. She very sadly lost both

of her parents and she became a mother and prepared for motherhood. she's been underground herself in a way nesting

and growing her family and after 17 years broodex the album about emergence and rediscovery is out now

...