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Conversations That Matter

Charlie Kirk Shot & More Comes Out on Iryna Zarutska, Are Evangelical Leaders Complicit?

Conversations That Matter

Jon Harris

Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Jon talks about the MacArthur Foundation, social justice and wokeness that went into DEI policies, how pastor's forwarded an unjust agenda, and new analysis of the footage of Iryna Zarutska's murder by Decarlos Brown.


Also, BREAKING NEWS. Charlie Kirk shot in the neck at an event.


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0:00.0

Today we gather as a school and as a church to celebrate Black History Month.

0:06.5

It is right.

0:08.5

Black History Month for us to think biblically.

0:13.0

We need to think clearly on how the gospel comes to bear on all of life, especially racial reconciliation.

0:25.6

Today as in school, we are very fortunate and blessed to have a New Testament theology expert,

0:31.6

a Pauline scholar, a leading thinker, an advocate that is pressing the true church, the real church, toward racial reconciliation.

0:45.3

It is an honor to have such a well-known, impactful thinker here at Hickory Grove and not just professionally.

0:52.1

Let me just speak personally as a man. Dr. Jarvis Williams wrote a book

0:58.0

called Removing the Stain of Racism from the Southern Baptist Convention. I've read it, our staff has read it.

1:08.5

It was one of those books that turns the light on for you, to think differently.

1:17.0

And so just as a Christian man, I am indebted to Dr. Jarvis Williams and we as a school

1:23.7

are very fortunate to have him.

1:26.6

So would you make Dr. Jarvis Williams feel welcome as he comes

1:30.3

to lead us today? Williams? We have a Bible this morning. Part of our theological makeup, one of the things we understand as a core of our theology

1:47.5

is that we come into this world with a sinful nature.

1:50.9

We are born sinners.

1:55.1

And it stands the reason that if we are born sinners, we are born racist.

2:05.2

Well, there you have it.

2:06.2

That is the president of the Southern Baptist Convention a few years ago, talking about how we're just all born racist because that's what original sin means.

2:13.7

That's what that doctrine actually teaches.

2:15.5

Everyone's a racist.

2:16.4

Everyone's guilty, I guess, of every

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