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Charlie Kirk's Legacy - Preserving Debate in a Polarised Age | Os Guinness, Krish Kandiah, Billy Hallowell

Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable?

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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The shocking death of Charlie Kirk has left a void in the public square. However you felt about his politics or style, he was a figure unafraid to step into hostile spaces, defend his Christian faith, and face opponents head-on. From the Oxford Union to U.S. campuses, Kirk embodied a willingness to disagree openly at a time when many retreat to echo chambers. In this week's show Premier Unbelievable?'s Billy Hallowell is joined by Os Guinness and Krish Kandiah to reflect on Kirk’s legacy, the controversies, and the reckoning his loss demands. How do we preserve free speech without fear? How do we turn down the temperature in our debates? And can we recover the art of disagreeing agreeably in a polarised age? To keep bringing you conversations like this — with a wide range of voices and remarkable guests — why not consider supporting the production of more Unbelievable? podcasts //www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training

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Tickets on sale now at LiveNation.com.uk. Rent Collective, Live. Welcome to Premiere

0:32.8

Unbelievable, the show where we create space for conversations that matter, conversations between people who don't

0:38.9

always agree, but who believe it's important to keep talking. Today's episode is a little different.

0:45.1

We're responding to the shocking news of the death of conservative icon Charlie Kirk. However people

0:51.6

felt about him, whether they admired him, opposed him, or fell anywhere in

0:55.1

between, there's no doubt that he was a significant voice in the public square. Charlie Kirk was a

1:00.8

figure who brought his Christian faith into debates that mattered, and he was willing to step

1:05.5

into spaces like the Oxford and Cambridge Unions and other colleges and universities around

1:10.5

America, knowing he would

1:12.2

face strong disagreement. He articulated convictions that resonated with a lot of people, particularly

1:18.5

young men, at a time of what some have called a quiet revival. But the way that his life was

1:25.2

taken makes this not just a tragedy, but a moment of reckoning.

1:29.8

And there are some real dangers to consider here.

1:32.4

How do we ensure that this doesn't become the moment when people grow too afraid to talk with those with whom they disagree?

1:38.7

That's what we want to explore today, not a debate, but a free-flowing conversation.

1:46.4

How do we remain a public square where we can disagree agreeably? How do we turn down the temperature in a marketplace of ideas when

1:51.5

things feel very much out of control? And why is freedom of speech true freedom to interrogate

1:58.3

ideas worth protecting? To help us reflect on all of this, I am joined

2:03.1

today by author and social critic Oz Guinness and theologian and social entrepreneur Chris Kandaya.

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