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🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | See Rent Collective Live. |
| 0:05.0 | The experimental folk rock worship band will bring their folk tour across the UK this September. |
| 0:13.0 | See them live at a venue near you. |
| 0:17.0 | Tickets on sale now at LiveNation.com.uk. Rent Collective, Live. Welcome to Premiere |
| 0:32.8 | Unbelievable, the show where we create space for conversations that matter, conversations between people who don't |
| 0:38.9 | always agree, but who believe it's important to keep talking. Today's episode is a little different. |
| 0:45.1 | We're responding to the shocking news of the death of conservative icon Charlie Kirk. However people |
| 0:51.6 | felt about him, whether they admired him, opposed him, or fell anywhere in |
| 0:55.1 | between, there's no doubt that he was a significant voice in the public square. Charlie Kirk was a |
| 1:00.8 | figure who brought his Christian faith into debates that mattered, and he was willing to step |
| 1:05.5 | into spaces like the Oxford and Cambridge Unions and other colleges and universities around |
| 1:10.5 | America, knowing he would |
| 1:12.2 | face strong disagreement. He articulated convictions that resonated with a lot of people, particularly |
| 1:18.5 | young men, at a time of what some have called a quiet revival. But the way that his life was |
| 1:25.2 | taken makes this not just a tragedy, but a moment of reckoning. |
| 1:29.8 | And there are some real dangers to consider here. |
| 1:32.4 | How do we ensure that this doesn't become the moment when people grow too afraid to talk with those with whom they disagree? |
| 1:38.7 | That's what we want to explore today, not a debate, but a free-flowing conversation. |
| 1:46.4 | How do we remain a public square where we can disagree agreeably? How do we turn down the temperature in a marketplace of ideas when |
| 1:51.5 | things feel very much out of control? And why is freedom of speech true freedom to interrogate |
| 1:58.3 | ideas worth protecting? To help us reflect on all of this, I am joined |
| 2:03.1 | today by author and social critic Oz Guinness and theologian and social entrepreneur Chris Kandaya. |
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