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Charlie Kirk assassination leads to free speech crackdown

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🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Former FBI agent and Yale University lecturer Asha Rangappa talks about Kash Patel's leadership of the FBI, after criticism grows over Patel's handling of the investigation into who killed conservative Charlie Kirk. 

Then, in the wake of Kirk's death, some Americans have lost their jobs for their social media posts about the killing. We hear more from Will Creeley, legal director of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. 

And, actor Robert Redford has died at 89. Here & Now's Robin Young shares a portion of her interview with Redford from 2015. 

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0:00.0

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0:21.6

I'm honored to be the ninth director of the FBI.

0:26.0

I'm not going anywhere.

0:27.8

If you want to criticize my 16 years of service, please bring it on.

0:34.8

Senators did indeed bring it on in their questioning of FBI director Cash Patel.

0:51.3

It's Tuesday, September 16th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR.

0:57.0

I'm Chris Bentley.

1:00.3

Today on the show, free speech and political persecution after the murder of Charlie Kirk.

1:06.3

It's shocking. It's a kind of top-down authoritarian snitch culture encouraged from the White House, from the vice president.

1:15.6

Also, we remember Robert Redford.

1:18.6

I mean, he changed so many lives and he changed movies both as a director and as the head of Sundance.

1:24.6

I mean, God, who else can say that?

1:43.2

But first, in a Senate hearing this morning, the FBI director defended his public posts and statements about the killing of

1:44.7

conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Democrats and some of his fellow conservatives have been

1:50.1

critical of Cash Patel. But on his way to England this morning, President Trump said he had

1:55.3

confidence in his FBI director. Take a look at what he did with respect to this horrible

2:00.0

person that he just

2:01.3

captured. He did it in two days. It took other similar cases, four days, five days, four years.

2:09.0

If you look at certain shooters, now I have confidence in everybody in the administration.

2:15.1

Former FBI agent Asha Rangappa has been watching the hearing.

2:19.2

She's a lecturer at Yale Law School.

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