Hey, this is the moment, I'm Brian Cobleman, thanks for listening.

My guest today is Charles Oakley.

I will tell you, like, it means a lot to me to talk to you because the way you played

for a team that's really up through your time there meant so much to me.

I've forced myself to kind of boycott the team mostly over the last bunch of years.

Like, I went to a game two weeks ago with Darryl Mori, Darryl Mori's box, which I never

would have done when I was young before I realized what was really going on there behind

the scenes.

But your teams and the way you played really, it meant what sports mean to people, like

the reason people give a fuck about sports was because of how you guys did it.

Well, no more things for having, but I hear it all the time, they're my world maps,

I'm out for New York, someone, people in Boston even tell me, I hate you, but I like

the way you play it.

I like the way you compete.

I said, I mean, I ain't mad at you, you know, but it's just, you know, I think that when

you own a team and special, you know, back then, you had a job to do and not just saying

you played for the money, the height, you played to show the fans, you had the love for

the game.

And when you put that jersey on, you're going to represent that jersey in that city and

a lot of that's, it's not the one or no.

Well, in your, your new book, The Last and Forrests, or which is about as entertaining a

memoir about sports as I've read in a, I was trying to think back and like, maybe ball

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