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Ask Pastor John

Charismatic Abuses? Doctrinal and Emotional

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2013

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Flaws litter charismatic and non-charismatic churches alike. Pastor John has two biblical warnings for those who prize feelings over mature thinking.

Transcript

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As we continue to talk about continuationism and tongues and prophecy today, Pastor John,

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would you like to address anything about the abuses that you see in the charismatic movement

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today?

0:16.3

Yes, I do want to say something about charismatic abuses, but we really need to keep in

0:25.0

mind that every charismatic abuse has its mirror image in non-carismatic abuses.

0:36.0

Nothing I'm going to say is unique to charismatic, and I'll point that out as we go along.

0:41.6

So any charismatic listening here, don't feel picked on because I know that in some of

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these cases, the non-carismatic church is more guilty than the charismatic.

0:55.7

So here we go, I'll just mention two, doctrinal abuses, and emotional abuses.

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So here's the first one, doctrinal abuses, and all of these, by the way, are in the Bible.

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I mean, I don't think any abuse started in the 21st century.

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They were all there in the 1st century, which is wonderful because now we have guidance

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for how to think about the abuses.

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And 1st John 4, 1 and 2, beloved do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see

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whether they are from God.

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For many false prophets have gone out into the world.

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By this you know the spirit of God, every spirit that confesses that Jesus has come in

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the flesh is from God.

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Now what's he doing?

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He's giving a doctrinal test for a spiritual claim.

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And the test is Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

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This is the doctrine of the incarnation, testing supernatural claims.

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