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Ask Pastor John

Charismatic Abuses? Discernment and Finances

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2013

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Discernment and financial abuses exist in charismatic and non-charismatic churches alike. Pastor John urges believers to cling to the word of God.

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In the last Aspasturjohn podcast episode, episode 216, you focused on the doctrinal and

0:11.0

emotional abuses in the charismatic movement, but you said there's other abuses to address.

0:16.0

What are some other abuses that caused you concern, Pastor John?

0:19.6

What I said was less we'd be harder on charismatics than on non-charismatics.

0:28.2

We must keep in mind that all the abuses I'm mentioning, these have their counterparts,

0:35.0

their mirror image in the non-charismatic churches as well.

0:39.1

So in the previous podcast, we focused on doctrinal abuses and emotional abuses.

0:45.3

And I would say that non-charismatics taken as a whole, all the Christians who don't

0:49.8

practice the gifts, are far more guilty of these than charismatics.

0:54.6

Think of all the doctrinal errors in the history of the church.

0:57.2

Those aren't charismatics, by and large.

0:59.3

Think of all the dying mainline churches today with all their moral and doctrinal aberrations.

1:04.8

These aren't charismatics.

1:06.9

And think of the emotional deadness in thousands of non-charismatic evangelical and mainline

1:11.5

churches.

1:12.5

Those are deadly emotional abuses.

1:15.8

And we just need to remember that if we target the charismatic church because of things

1:23.0

that are happening there, doctrineally and emotionally, let's remember the mirror image

1:27.7

which are equally deadly are happening among non-charismatic churches as well.

1:33.8

So here, let me mention two more abuses.

1:37.3

There was doctrinal, then there was emotional, now I'd add discernment abuses or lack of

1:43.8

discernment abuses.

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