Jason Ellis is joining us on the podcast.

They're doing it for the love, you know what I mean?

That's what I could feel that this was like, this is a core thing.

When you go there early and you watch the build and you're on the hill when they're all together.

That's the bit that.

That's the fucking real. That landing pad shit, I was like, you're gonna what? Can't break me. I got a lot of drive. If I point myself at something, I'm gonna get it done. And I have all that childhood drama to thank because that's the engine. When you get older and you skate vert when you're in your 50s, what is it? Another decade? Like, who is 60 that can do head high airs on a 13-foot-high vert ramp? Tony and Cab and all those dudes, we're the first of its kind. If skateboarding had to pay me $20,000 a month, I would have died. I didn't make a lot of money from skateboarding. But at the time, if you had it given me Danny Way money, I would have OD.

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