stop video it says i'm built in it looks like um this is mikey shafer interview april 2020

yeah that's interesting give me a sec sorry about that word winning cinematographer doesn't know how to

turn the camera on i haven't had to zoom yet so you haven't zoom you've made it this far into pandemic

life without i've done i've done google google whatever and I've done it on Microsoft, yeah.

Yeah, actually fits.

I tell you, I did that speaker's here or town hall thing with John Kerry or whatever,

and they only use Skype because it's way more secure,

apparently for former Secretary of State's they care about that show.

Well, you know we're super high-tech and duct tape the mirror.

Okay, I'm going to disconnect and restart here. Yeah, you know we're super high-tech and duct tape the mirror. Okay, I'm going to

disconnect and restart here. Yeah, cool. Chapter 2, tap, tap, twist. My name's Mikey Schaefer. I started

and kind of through Boy Scouts with my older brother when we were, you know, young teenagers.

I was 13 and that quickly

actually evolved to trying to get to Yosemite to try to climb El Cap when I was 15. And literally

the day I graduated high school, I packed up my truck and drove to Yosemite and spent the whole

summer there. And then more or less,

I've spent almost every climbing season there since then. So that was 22 years ago.

So how do you learn how to put up first ascent? I grew up in Tacoma, Washington. And the guys that I met just hanging out around the climbing

shop, that was sort of the epicenter of climbing there, was just you'd actually just go to the

climbing shop and hang out and read magazines.

And some of the older guys took me under their wing, and they were some of the local route

developers and guidebook authors.

...