Chaos: ICE Murder, Burnham, and Insults
The Trawl
Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss
4.7 • 867 Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Marina and Jemma are trying very hard not to lose the actual plot while the world insists on setting it on fire.
Trump U-turns on tariffs. He insults British troops. ICE kill an innocent man in the street and continue abducting children in broad daylight.
Suella Braverman defects to Reform (yes, really).
Andy Burnham makes his move.
And democracy continues to wobble like a shopping trolley with one broken wheel.
From Davos chaos and Greenland conspiracy theories, to Trump’s grotesque comments about UK soldiers, to the latest ICE killing and the growing use of immigration enforcement as political theatre, this episode trawls through a week where nothing feels normal and everything feels dangerous.
There’s anger.
There’s dark humour.
There’s disbelief.
There’s proper “sit in a circle and talk about our feelings” energy.
Because when politics starts to feel unreal, the most dangerous thing you can do is get numb.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | A bunch of the world's creepiest tech twibes want somewhere to live out their fantasy of becoming god kings, |
| 0:05.0 | and now Cheeto Benito is trying to set America's most important alliances on fire to give them their fucking wish. |
| 0:33.2 | Hello and welcome to The Trall where we are desperately trying to cling on and try our goddamn hardest not to lose the blinking plot. I'm Marina Perkis. |
| 0:40.5 | And I'm Gerva Forte and I might have lost a little bit of the plot. Just a tiny, tiny bit. |
| 0:45.7 | So for context trawlers, we're recording this on Monday evening. So it's all going to be totally out of date that you know how we roll. And I have put a spanner in the works by going away |
| 0:51.0 | tomorrow. So by the time you're listening to this i'll be somewhere else and it's |
| 0:54.7 | been a traumatic weekend that's all i can say i've been so consumed by what's going on in the world |
| 1:01.1 | and i'm on the wine now and do you know sometimes we get some of you saying oh i love the trawl it's |
| 1:06.6 | like having a glass of what you know love to have a glass of wine with you well you are today you're |
| 1:09.6 | having a glass of wine with me i wish i have a glass of wine with you. Well, you are today. You're having a glass of wine with me. I wish I was having one. I'm in, with my day job. I'm just, I'm pulling like all night as at the moment. I'm doing, it's like death by frigging PowerPoint. So, like we say, we're not quite on the verge, but since we last recorded and now this is where we get serious, okay. Okay. |
| 1:28.0 | Trump's done a U-turn on the tariffs. |
| 1:30.3 | He's insulted our troops. |
| 1:32.3 | ICE have murdered another innocent person on the streets |
| 1:36.2 | and they've kidnapped more children in broad daylight. |
| 1:40.2 | Anything else, Marina? |
| 1:41.3 | Anything else? |
| 1:42.1 | Oh, what an opener. |
| 1:43.4 | What an opener. |
| 1:44.4 | Well, we've got Manchester mayor, Andy Burnham, has stuck his out in the ring to be an MP, |
| 1:51.5 | which actually sounds quite sort of insignificant and unimportant by comparison. |
| 1:56.6 | But it's interesting because it's clearly a sign that he's on manoeuvres for that top job. |
| 2:00.4 | Although he's been vetoed. He's been vetoed byuvres for that top job. Although he's been vetoed. |
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