The one video that we both did that I think is the most controversial of all is Chris

Bumstead.

And in that volleyball spike with a little bit of it looked like potentially there was

gyno, but then you see the before and after and the jump in muscle.

And it's like that's why we said he's natural.

And I've had so much flack for like,

you are an idiot. Look at that picture and look at this. And he has no genetics. And I'm like,

yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, if he can't look like that naturally, like who can, you know,

it's like, I don't know. It's, it's tough at that point. i get some people they think he did like because some people

they claim they're still natty when they did like over-the-counter pro hormones and whatnot so like

i think that's probably the middle ground where some people think he might have done that versus

like his first real cycle but it's like he still exploded before like you can typically

tell a guy like when he hops on for

the first time and he explodes like grows into a show while cutting it's kind of like I don't know

like for me it was uh I don't know like trying to debate that topic it's like why would he be I don't know

it's like he might have but he like he's a believable guy I'm friends with him and I don't

think he lied and is it possible that he took like a him. And I don't think he lied. And is it possible

that he took like a SARM or something? Like yeah, and he didn't even realize it. Yeah, but like, I don't

think so. Just that sheer amount of growth that he did that quickly prepping for a show. It's like,

I think that people that are thinking he's not natural, the ones that haven't taken PDs and they think that you're just going to be massive because they see like Brandon Harding, he put on no pounds of muscle on a 20 week cycle leading

into his last show where he looked amazing, was shredded. But because of that calorie deficit,

even with the PDs, he didn't grow. 20 weeks, you know, and no muscle growth looked great.

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