‘Change Isn’t Good Enough if It’s Just Change for Me’

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The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6 • 770 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Can fashion avoid tokenism and make sincere inclusivity a reality? At BoF VOICES, Sinéad Burke and Samira Nasr talk about how to be an inclusive leader in 2020.

After a year when awareness of the need for greater racial, physical and socioeconomic inclusion surged, can the fashion industry learn to avoid tokenism and turn that momentum into enduring change?In a conversation with activist, educator and writer Sinéad Burke at BoF VOICES, Harper’s Bazaar editor-in-chief Samira Nasr spoke about how and why she is working to build an inclusive team in her new role.“The best dinner parties are the ones with more difference. You don’t want to be sitting there with someone with the same ideas,” said Nasr, who was appointed to lead the magazine’s US edition in June.In many parts of the fashion industry, the status quo is only just beginning to shift. “I’m thinking about how to measure and put a process in place so that there’s systemic change,” Burke said. “Change isn’t good enough if it’s just change for me.”

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0:00.0	This episode is brought to you by Affirm.
0:02.8	Affirm's payover time solutions help brands drive conversion,
0:07.3	average order value and loyalty while acquiring new high lifetime value shoppers.
0:13.4	Learn more at Affirm.com.
0:18.2	You don't want to be sitting next to someone that just shares your ideas and who you know.
0:22.6	You want to bring people together who have different ideas and different perspectives
0:25.6	and see how that can all come together.
0:27.6	And that's really something I'm hoping to do at Harper's Bazaar.
0:30.6	We talked earlier about gatekeepers and influencing gatekeepers.
0:34.6	How do we influence those individuals
0:37.6	who still want to maintain a sense of what the status quo is?
0:41.1	We've already won.
0:42.1	I'm not worried about those gatekeepers.
0:43.8	I'm not going to worry about the person down the block
0:46.1	who refuses to be an agent of change.
0:49.0	That's cool.
0:50.2	History will be fine with you, not.
0:53.2	I'm going to worry about the people know, the people that I can bring
0:56.5	on board and the change that I can affect. Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the
1:06.4	business of fashion, and welcome to the BOF podcast.. This week we take you back to Voices 2020,
1:12.1	where Samira Nasser, the new editor-in-chief of American Harper's Bazaar, and Shenei Burke,
1:17.8	the industry's leading disability advocate, engaged in a passionate and emotional conversation
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