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Switched on Pop

Chance The Rapper, Kehlani, & The Shifting Sound of R&B — with Oak Felder

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music Interviews, Music History, Music, Music Commentary

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The sound of R&B is difficult to pin down. Since the 1950s, the label has been used both as a genre and as a catch-all for the entirety of black popular music. Soul, funk, disco and even hip-hop have at times been covered by this "R&B" umbrella. On Chance The Rapper's new album, The Big Day, all of these influences come through—and he's not alone. On recent Kehlani records, 90s R&B and 2000s trap both play a role. But both these artists are a far cry from the 50s R&B sounds of Sam Cooke. To understand how R&B has changed over time, we consult with Trevor Anderson, manager of Billboard's R&B/Hip Hop chart. Then we speak with R&B super-producer Oak Felder to understand how R&B is progressing and what it might become. Songs Discussed Chance The Rapper – Hot Shower Chance The Rapper – I Got You Sam Cooke – You Send Me Elvis Presley – Crying In the Chapel The Temptations – I Can’t Get Next To You Mtume – Juicy Fruit Biggie – Juicy Toni Braxton – Breath Again Janet Jackson – That’s The Way Love Goes Boys II Men – I’ll Make Love To You Lauryn Hill – Doo Wop (That Thing) Diddy – I’ll Be Missing You (feat. Faith Evans & 112) Nelly – Dilemma Kehlani – Distraction SWV – Weak Aaron Hall – I Miss You Usher – You Make Me Wanna Brandy – Sit-in Up In My Room Dru Hill – In My Bed Silk – Freak Me Demi Lovato – Sorry Not Sorry Jodeci – Cry For you Mariah Carey – Vision of Love Kehlani Everything Is Yours Chance The Rapper – All Day Long Queen – Fat Bottom Girls Diana Ross – I’m Coming Out For an in depth history of R&B on Billboard, read Chris Molanphy's feature on Pitchfork. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary Lisa's final act now on YouTube.

0:30.0

Welcome to Switched on Pop.

0:35.6

I'm songwriter Charlie Harding and I'm musicologist Nate Senn.

0:38.8

Okay, so this week I've been listening to Chance the Rapper's new album The Big Day.

0:44.5

And it's made me deeply question everything I thought I knew about genre.

0:48.7

Cool.

0:49.7

So check this out.

0:51.4

Yeah.

0:52.4

Here's his top charting song right now, Hot Shower.

0:54.7

Hot damn hot water hot shower hot Atlanta smoking green cauliflower.

1:00.4

Tangerine yeah, I call the sweet and sour and my lawyer say it's urgent.

1:05.4

I'm a column in.

1:06.4

Now wait, you said this is a top charting song.

1:12.1

Yeah, so it's on the billboard and it's both on the hot 100 and on the R&B and hip

1:16.8

hop chart.

1:17.8

This is a fun track.

1:18.8

I mean, it takes me back to like early hip hop in his delivery, but then there's this

1:24.4

trap element here with those rattling hi hats.

1:27.5

I'm into this.

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