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It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

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From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

I guess today was employee number 107 at Google. He was hired as an engineer, but that

is career took a kind of a strange little twist. He ended up spearheading the effort to

teach meditation to the employees and executives at Google. His name is Chad Meng Tan. Everybody

calls him Meng. He wrote a book about his experiences at Google called Search Inside Yourself.

And now he has a really interesting new book called Joy on Demand. It's interesting on

a million levels, but one of the things that I like about it is most people talk about

meditation is something that will make you reduce your stress or make you calm. But

Meng is shooting for joy. So we're going to talk to him about what he means by that

specifically. If you like cartoons and corny humor, this book is definitely for you. If

you don't like either of those things, the book is also for you because I think you will

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