From the Center for European Reform, this is the CEO podcast.

Poson us seriously the question of the

future that we want, and we all

all together to the courage to be construing.

For us in Germany, is the

beckrentness to the European Europe,

a part of our state's resolve.

A strong united Europe is a necessity for the world

because an integrated Europe remains vital to our

international order. This is the moment for Europe world because an integrated Europe remains vital to our international order.

This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.

Welcome to this Centre for European Reform podcast. I'm Charles Grant, the CEO's director,

and I'm here today with my colleague Sam Lowe, who's a senior research fellow, to talk about

where we've got to with

the Brexit process, in particular the Northern Ireland on protocol issues. But to those people who are

bored of talking only about the protocol, be reassured. We're going to talk about other issues too.

We're going to touch on financial services, data, and even the carbon border adjustment mechanism

as potential big snags in the EU-UK relationship ahead.

But let's start with the protocol.

As we speak, there are talks going on between the EU and the British government on how to resolve the differences of the two sides have on it.

The British have complained that as it's currently written, the protocol that they signed up to two years ago is not working very well, that it's disrupting trade patterns, it's causing economic problems, it's socially disruptive and it's creating political problems too.

And it does seem to be the case that about half the people in Northern Ireland have problems with it.

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