CER podcast: What next for Brexit?
Centre for European Reform podcast
Centre for European Reform
4.8 • 53 Ratings
🗓️ 23 October 2019
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From the Centre for European Reform, this is the CEO podcast. |
| 0:04.3 | It is a critical moment. If we do not act with urgency, we would then severely undermine the liberal order. |
| 0:17.4 | Brexit means Brexit, and we're going to make a success of it. |
| 0:23.7 | The wind is back in Europe's sales. |
| 0:27.1 | We have now a window of opportunity, but it will not stay open forever. |
| 0:33.6 | Hello and welcome to the CER podcast. I'm Beth Oppenheim and today I'm with the CER's director, Charles Grant, to discuss what's been a busy week for Brexit and also to look further ahead. Hi, Charles. |
| 0:45.6 | Hi, Beth. |
| 0:46.2 | So we're recording this on Monday the 21st of October. We had a somewhat unexpected breakthrough last week where after frantic negotiations, Boris Johnson managed |
| 0:55.9 | to reach what looks like a new deal with the EU, which perhaps most importantly got rid of |
| 1:01.3 | the backstop, the Irish backstop. Now Boris Johnson tried to hold a meaningful vote over the weekend |
| 1:06.8 | what everyone was getting very excited about, super Saturday, but instead this was derailed with |
| 1:11.8 | an amendment and Boris Johnson was then forced to request an extension, which would delay Brexit |
| 1:17.8 | until January the 31st of next year 2020. The world watched a somewhat absurd situation |
| 1:24.1 | unroll as Boris Johnson submitted an unsigned request for extension, accompanied by his own letter arguing against it. |
| 1:32.2 | So in brief, Charles, by the time this goes into listeners' ears, there will have been some events in Parliament. |
| 1:37.5 | What do you think is going to happen next in Parliament? |
| 1:40.0 | Well, I think on Saturday, Super Saturday, Boris Johnson lost a battle, but he's on course to win the war, |
| 1:46.1 | the war being to take Britain out of the EU. It looks highly likely that he now has a small majority |
| 1:51.9 | in Parliament of less than 10, but enough to win either a meaningful vote or a vote on the second |
| 1:57.7 | reading with the Withdrawal Act Bill, which will essentially signal |
| 2:01.0 | that Britain is going to leave the EU. And then the argument becomes not whether we leave or not, |
| 2:06.3 | but what kind of Brexit we aim for in the future. There's one small hope for Remainers, |
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