From the Center for European Reform, this is the CERR podcast.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the CER podcast.

My name is Sophia Besch.

I'm a research fellow here at the Center for European Reform.

And today I'm in conversation with Camino Matera Martinez,

who is a research fellow and works on justice and home affairs for the CR in Brussels. Welcome, Camino.

Good morning, Sophia.

So we're going to talk today about what the next future security relationship between the UK and the EU will look like after Brexit and more importantly how to get there.

Because in her speech at the Munich Security Conference earlier this year,

Prime Minister Theresa May has suggested that the EU and the UK could conclude a new treaty

to underpin their future internal security relationship.

And so if that's what the UK is aiming to do to negotiate an overarching treaty

with the EU covering cooperation and justice and home affairs, what we want to do now is talk

about what their treaty could look like, what it could cover and how to get there. So first,

what will this treaty cover Camino? The UK, even as an EU member state, has not really subscribed to all of justice and home affairs

cooperation.

It has opted out of some measures and opted into others.

What are the UK's priority?

What does I want to achieve with this security treaty?

To me, one of the main things is to look at a bit of a background very quickly.

So the UK is seeking an overarching treaty, as you were saying.

And that is a very interesting question because if you look at the way other countries

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