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CER podcast: Russia and Ukraine: A worsening crisis?

Centre for European Reform podcast

Centre for European Reform

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4.853 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Seven years after Russia illegally annexed Crimea, conflict between Russia and Ukraine has resurged, with Putin deploying Russian regular forces along Ukraine's eastern border. In this podcast episode, the CER's director Charles Grant speaks to Ian Bond, our director of foreign policy, and Orysia Lutsevych, research fellow and manager of the Ukraine Forum at Chatham House, about what Putin's endgame could be and how Ukraine and its Western allies should respond. Music by Edward Hipkins Produced by Rosie Giorgi

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0:00.0

From the Center for European Reform, this is the CEO podcast.

0:04.1

Poson us seriously the question of the

0:05.9

future that we want, and we all

0:08.1

all together, the courage to it construct.

0:10.5

For us in Germany, is the

0:11.9

Bekindness to the European Europe,

0:14.1

a part of our state's resolve.

0:15.7

A strong united Europe is a necessity for the world,

0:17.9

because an integrated Europe remains vital to our

0:20.1

international order. This is the moment for Europe world because an integrated Europe remains vital to our international order.

0:21.3

This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.

0:27.6

Welcome to this CR podcast on Russia, Ukraine and the West. I'm Charles Grant, the CR's director. I'm here today with two experts.

0:36.4

One is my colleague Ian Bond, who's Director of Foreign Policy at the CR. The other is Eurysia Lutsovic. She runs the Ukraine program at Chatham House. Welcome to both of you.

0:44.3

Hi, Charles. Good to be with you.

0:46.3

Well, nice to have you both. Well, it's seven years since Russia illegally annexed Crimea and invaded parts of eastern Ukraine. And I don't think

0:55.2

I can remember relations between Russia and the West being so bad since the Soviet Union

1:00.7

collapsed. The immediate problem is there are, according to the Ukrainian government,

1:05.9

120,000 Russian troops massed near the borders of Ukraine. We've seen the Czechs expelling Russian diplomats

1:13.5

because two of them are being accused of being responsible for an ammunition dump blowing up

1:19.2

in the Czech Republic in 2014. There happened to be the same two individuals who appear to have

1:24.8

been responsible for the Scripal attacks in Soulsbury in the UK.

1:29.2

And we've seen Russia, Russian diplomats being expelled by the US because of election interference and cyber hacking.

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