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CER podcast: Poland and Belarus: What can and should the EU do?

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4.452 Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In this week's CER podcast, our director Charles Grant speaks to senior research fellow Camino Mortera-Martinez and Katia Glod of the Centre for European Policy Analysis, to discuss the latest developments in Belarus and on its border with Poland. Belarus’ President Lukashenka is still encouraging migrants from the Middle East to head for that border, where Poland is trying to repel them. The podcast discusses Lukashenka’s motivations, the legality of Poland’s response and what the EU should be doing to resolve the problem. Music by Edward Hipkins Produced by Rosie Giorgi

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From the Center for European Reform, this is the CER podcast.

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Poson us seriously the question of the

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future that we want, and we all

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all together to the courage to be construing.

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For us in Germany, is the

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Bekenness to the European Europe,

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a part of our state's resolve.

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A strong united Europe is a necessity for the world

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because an integrated Europe remains vital to our

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international order. This is the moment for Europe world because an integrated Europe remains vital to our international order.

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This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.

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Hello, welcome to this Centre for European Reform podcast on Belarus and its border issues with Poland.

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I'm Charles Grant, the CER's director. I'm joined here by my colleague Camino

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Mortero Martinez, based in our Brussels office, who's a JHA Justice and Affairs expert,

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has also an expert on migration, has been following the Polish border issue closely.

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I'm also joined by the special guest, Katja Glod, who's a fellow of the Centre for

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European Policy Analysis in Washington, has been writing

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a lot about Belarus, the country comes from four, SEPA and other think tanks as well.

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Welcome to you both.

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Thanks. Hello.

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Okay. Let me just start off with a word on what we think is happening as far as we know.

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This week, and we're recording on the 23rd of November. The tension seemed to have been somewhat alleviated. They're somewhat reduced compared to where they were last week. There are still people trying to cross the border from Belarus and to Poland. But fewer than before, Lukashenko, the self-proclaimed president of Belarus, has had a couple of talks with Angela Merkel on the telephone.

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