From the Centre for European Reform, this is the CEO podcast.

It is a critical moment.

If we do not act with urgency, we would then severely undermine the liberal order.

Brexit means Brexit, and we're going to make a success of it.

The wind is back in Europe's sales. We have now a window of opportunity, but it will not stay open forever.

Hello and welcome to the CEO podcast. My name is Sophia Besh. I'm a research fellow here at the

Center for European Reform and today I'm in conversation with Ian Bond, the CEO's Director of Foreign Policy.

Ian was the lead researcher on a recent CR insight that looked at how Europe will change without the UK.

And the story of this insight is that in 2016, the

CER made 10 predictions about the effect of Brexit on future EU policy. And now that Brexit

could be imminent, we looked again at the predictions we've made, taking into account the developments

of the last years. Because just for context, when we wrote the

first piece, Donald Trump had not yet been elected president, the Eurozone was not slowing down,

this was before the search of Eurosceptic forces in Italy, a different time, really. So,

Ian, we've got our work cut out for us for this podcast. Let's look at the CS predictions, see how

they stood up and where we are

now. And rather than going one by one, I want to tackle this in groups, if that's all right.

Yep, that makes sense to me.

Wonderful. So first, let's talk about economics. So in the original piece, we had said,

or I should say our economists had said that even without

the UK, there will still be a consensus for liberalizing the internal market, that divisions

within the Eurozone will make rapid integration very unlikely, and that progress towards

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