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CER event audio: Juliet Samuel of The Telegraph speaks at the CER fringe event at #CPC17

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🗓️ 3 October 2017

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Juliet Samuel, Columnist, The Telegraph speaks at the CER fringe event at the Conservative party conference: 'How to handle Brexit'.

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0:00.0

I'm delighted to welcome five very eminent panelists tonight.

0:04.0

Firstly, Juliet Samuel from the Telegraph will kick off.

0:07.0

I will just say one thing about Juliet's columns.

0:09.0

One of the problems with the media's coverage of the Brexit negotiations,

0:13.0

an awful lot of journalists based in London don't travel and talk to people in the EU

0:17.0

and get that side of the story too.

0:18.0

Well, Juliet's an exception.

0:20.0

She was in Brussels recently talking to the EU negotiators. She hears it from both sides of the negotiation,

0:25.3

which is why I always read her columns. Julie, over to you. Do give us an overview. How does it look

0:30.0

from your own point of view? So I think it's safe to say that the point we're starting from right now is that the negotiations are not going that well.

0:44.3

And we're at the point where the EU is going to decide soon whether to progress talks onto the next stage and talk about a trade deal or whether that will be delayed

0:54.6

until Christmas or possibly further. And it's very clear that that is a political decision.

1:02.5

The EU is framing this as a legal decision and a legal framework. But in fact, we all know that

1:09.3

this is a political procedure.

1:11.5

So the EU needs to feel that it has gotten some sort of PR victory that will enable it

1:18.0

to say that there has been sufficient progress, because we all know that it's impossible

1:23.0

to actually sort out the issues like the Northern Irish border before there will be a final deal,

1:28.3

which determines what our trading relationship will be.

1:31.3

And Britain has basically decided to go along with this ordering, rightly in my view,

1:36.3

in order to avoid a lot of arguing about procedure.

1:40.3

But where I'm going to start is basically with what the government has done badly or well so far in the negotiations and then what it should do going forward.

1:52.1

So I'll start with the bad news, which I'm afraid is a slightly longer list than the good news.

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