From the Centre for European Reform, this is the CER podcast.

Hello, my name is Sophia Beshe.

Welcome to the CER Bulletin Podcast.

The CER publishes six bulletins a year with three short pieces each that give you the lay of the land on three particularly important topics.

And in the Bulletin podcast, the three authors each get five minutes to answer questions about their

piece. This is our second episode of the Bulletin podcast, so this is now officially a series.

This time I have gathered two researchers in our very professional podcasting studio, Agatha Augustinska Jakubovska,

who's a senior research fellow here at the CIA, and Ian Bond, our foreign policy director.

And I have the third interviewee calling in Camino Matera Martinez from Spain. So Ian Agata

and Camino will be answering questions on British foreign policy after Brexit,

on EU reforms and on cyber security.

And they will be particularly concise so that hopefully only 15 minutes from now,

you'll all pause this podcast feeling much more knowledgeable and just generally happier

and a better person than before.

With this optimistic setup, Agatha, let me turn to you

first, you wrote a piece called the member states and the EU taking back control. And in it,

you argue that the EU is getting more British after Brexit. Why? Yes, as you know,

the consecutive British governments favoured a stronger say for the EU capitals in the

EU decision-making process and the outcome of the informal meeting of the 27 EU leaders,

without Theresa May being present in February where they discussed the EU's future post-Brexit,

very much chimes with this vision.

So you give in your piece three reasons of the three institutional reforms that might or might not happen.

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