Hi everybody. It is Helen from the Squiggly Careers podcast. And before you listen to today's episode,

I just want to do something that I honestly find quite hard. This is no joke the sixth time I have

recorded this. And that is because I'm going to ask for help and it doesn't feel easy for me to do.

But here we go. We are now very close to our new book, Learn Like a Lobster, coming out. It comes out on the 5th of

February, which means if you pre-order now, it makes a really big difference to us. If you don't

know how the book thing works, pre-orders mean that books climb the charts, it feeds the

algorithm and more people see our work. That means we can help more people with their career.

We can help more people to grow. So if you've been considering the book, if you are a

supporter of Squiggly, but you just haven't done it yet, please, please, please, pre-order now.

It makes a really big difference to us and it means we can reach help and support more people

with their Squiggly career. I'm not going to say anymore, apart from thank you.

Thank you for all of the sport the squiggly careers community give us.

And let's get on to today's episode.

Hi, my name's Sarah, and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast.

This is one of our special episodes where with CEOs,

I'm asking them about their shell shedding moments.

What happened, what helped, and words of wisdom to help you when you have those shell shedding moments too.

And I feel like today is an extra special CEO slash a very convenient interview.

She needed someone so she found me.

So today, I don't think I've ever interviewed Helen.

When I had the idea, it made me chuckle.

So I was like, oh, this sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun.

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