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American Hysteria

Celebrity Clone Conspiracies with 'No Such Thing' Podcast

American Hysteria

W!ZARD Studios

Society & Culture, History

4.43.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

For this collaboration with the podcast No Such Thing, we covered the tales of nefarious forces secretly replacing famous people with clones. We’ll learn about different clone conspiracies and their origins, hear from an expert on the real science and ethical concerns behind cloning, and chat about where these outlandish tales fit into the larger infrastructure of American conspiracy theories. No Such Thing is a show where three best friends and journalists settle their dumb arguments — and yours — by actually doing the research. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to support our show and get early ad-free episodes and bonus content Or subscribe to American Hysteria on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get some of our new merch at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠americanhysteria.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, all profits go to The Sameer Project, a Palestinian-led mutual aid group who are on the ground in Gaza delivering food and supplies to displaced families. Leave us a message on the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Urban Legends Hotline⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Producer and Editor: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Zickler⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Associate Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Riley Swedelius-Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Additional editing by ⁠⁠⁠Kaylee Jasperson⁠⁠⁠ Hosted by Chelsey Weber-Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

People talk about Paul McCartney being cloned.

0:07.0

It's like, did they know when he was a baby in 1940 in Liverpool?

0:10.0

We're going to need a second one of these lads.

0:13.0

And let's get this one cooking so then when we're going to talk about today, the fun ones about nefarious forces, secretly replacing famous people with clones.

0:41.8

For this collaboration, I hung out with the boys of the podcast No Such Thing,

0:47.8

a show where, in their own words, three best friends and journalists,

0:52.7

settle their dumb arguments and yours by actually doing the research.

0:58.5

We'll learn about the different clone conspiracies and their origins, hear from an expert on the real science and ethical concerns behind cloning,

1:07.8

and chat about where these outlandish tales fit into the larger infrastructure of American

1:14.1

conspiracy theories. I'm your host, Chelsea Weber Smith, and this is American hysteria and

1:22.8

no such thing. I'm Annie. I'm Noah. This is Dev.

1:29.4

We're talking about clones, specifically celebrity clones and how many of them there might be

1:34.4

around us. We hear about these all the time. And this week we're joined by our special guest,

1:40.5

Chelsea, from American Hysteria. We're going to dive into it and kind of sort this out.

1:46.5

Mandy, do you want to run us through a few clone theories you've heard?

1:49.4

Yeah, sure. I mean, essentially pretty much every celebrity when they like lose a little bit

1:54.5

of weight, there's a new conspiracy about them being a clone. So all of the kind of classic ones, you've got Britney Spears,

2:02.9

clone conspiracies, you've got Jennifer Lopez, Jay-Z.

2:08.5

One of my favorites, an under-talked-about clone conspiracy is Gucci Main.

2:13.9

The rapper, he went to jail for some horrible crime.

2:19.1

I can't remember what it was. When he was released, he obviously was in much better shape, a lot less body fat percentage, you might say. And

2:25.0

immediately people were like, wow, they cloned him while he was in there. And then they've got this

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