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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Ceasefire on day 40 - with Bret Stephens and Amir Fuchs

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Jews, Religion & Spirituality, Israel, Jewish, Judaism, Israel Podcast, Middle East, Jonathan Freedland, Documentary

4.7770 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Follow Unholy and learn more about the pod: https://unholy-podcast.lovable.app/ Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes: https://bit.ly/UnholyPatreon Day 40 of the US-Israel war on Iran — and it's ceasefire. But the relief is complicated: Israeli bombardment of Hezbollah in Lebanon has already shifted the world's anger from Washington back to Jerusalem. Bret Stephens, opinion columnist at the New York Times and one of the conflict's most prominent intellectual defenders, joins Yonit and Jonathan to take stock — was it worth it, what was actually achieved, and what does an inconclusive ending mean for Israel's standing with a younger American generation that's turning away. Then: the death penalty bill that slipped through the Knesset on Erev Pesach. Dr. Amir Fuchs of the Israeli Democracy Institute was inside those committee rooms. He explains what passed and who it targets.

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0:00.0

The history of Israel's wars is a history of kicking cans down the road.

0:06.1

I mean, that's how Israel has stayed alive these past 78 or so years.

0:11.8

1956 solved Israel's problems for a while.

0:15.0

Then came 67.

0:16.4

But, you know, I mean, that's the story.

0:18.3

Israel has enough power to postpone reckonings, but not to end them.

0:36.9

It's unholy. I'm Unonite Levy in Tel Aviv.

0:40.0

And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

0:42.7

And the clock stops on day 40. It's ceasefire. The voice you heard at the top of the show is Brett

0:48.0

Stevens of the New York Times. We'll talk about the war with him and also later in the program

0:52.8

as the coalition here in Israel continues its legislation.

0:55.6

Missiles or no missiles, we will discuss the extremely controversial death penalty bill

0:59.8

with an expert who sat on in the committee deliberations in the Knesset.

1:03.8

But for now, Jonathan, can I share with you a little bit about a little bit of what went through

1:09.8

my head when I woke up this morning.

1:11.3

Well, you tell me, I'm not going to guess what goes through your mind, but my word, what a week

1:15.9

it's been from where you are. So yes, walk me through it. What a week? What 40 days? I mean,

1:20.5

we should say we're talking on Thursday afternoon, on the night. Very early on Wednesday,

1:26.4

it was clear that a ceasefire was taking hold after

1:29.2

40 days of war between the U.S. and Israel versus Iran. I mean, just to say, I woke up Thursday

1:36.1

morning, and the first thought I had in my head was, what is this feeling? It's nice, but I don't

1:42.3

know what it is. And then I realized, oh, I've actually

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