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So I'm here today with my co-host, Abby Cardis.

Hello.

And the two of us are joined by returning guest, Jane Thomason.

Jane is the lead industrial hygienist for National Nurses United, known as NNU.

And we recently had Jane on to talk about how the CDC and its advisory committee on infection control

in health care known as Hickpack are trying to weaken infection control guidance for health

care settings in the United States. And we have her back today to check back in on what's

been going on and how NNU is looking for help trying to stop this dangerous shift in guidance

that will make health care

less safe for everyone and directly undermines the health and safety of workers in health care

settings.

Jane, welcome back to the show.

It is so nice to get a chance to speak with you again.

Thanks so much for having me.

It's great to be back.

Though, honestly, I wish it were under better circumstances.

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