CC: Why We Fawn & People Please with Dr. Ingrid Clayton
Life Coaching with Christine Hassler
Christine Hassler
4.8 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 4 October 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
The survival strategy of fawning may have once kept you safe, but it can leave you disconnected, resentful, and exhausted.
In this powerful conversation, Dr. Ingrid Clayton, psychologist and author of Fawning: The Cost of People-Pleasing and the Courage to Break Free, joins Christine to unpack trauma and specifically the trauma response of fawning.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody and welcome to Coach's Corner. I'm so glad to have you here the beautiful |
| 0:07.7 | conversation about trauma and specifically the trauma response of fawning, which was one of my |
| 0:14.0 | trauma responses and still is to a certain degree. And I think it's very common for empaths |
| 0:18.6 | to have this trauma response. |
| 0:21.8 | And I did an Instagram video on this about the ability to really read a room. |
| 0:26.6 | And there's something they teach in Korea called Nunchi. |
| 0:28.9 | We've mentioned this on the podcast before, which is literally translated as eye measure or engaging with the eyes. |
| 0:35.3 | And it's the art of reading a room, picking up on unspoken cues, |
| 0:39.7 | and adjusting your behavior based on others' feelings, hierarchy, or social context. I have an |
| 0:45.5 | assistant today. So it's a mix of emotional intelligence, social awareness, and tact. And from a young |
| 0:53.4 | age, Korean kids are guided to be |
| 0:54.9 | very attuned to group dynamics. Parents and teachers will encourage children to notice, |
| 0:59.3 | tone of voice, body language, facial expressions, atmosphere, like really, really great qualities. |
| 1:05.5 | And so many of us have become exceptional at that as a trauma response. |
| 1:11.5 | We've become excellent fauners. |
| 1:13.1 | We've become chameleons. |
| 1:15.3 | And so my guest today, Dr. Ingrid Clayton, is really going to break this down for us. |
| 1:22.2 | So far, my daughter is not acing this exercise. |
| 1:31.5 | We're going to roll with it. Ingrid Clayton is a licensed clinical psychologist with a master's in transpersonal psychology and a PhD in clinical psychology. |
| 1:37.4 | She had a thriving practice for over 15 years and is a regular contributor to psychology today |
| 1:42.0 | where her blog, Emotional Sobriety, has received more |
| 1:45.4 | than one million views. And we're going to be talking about her new book, Fawning, why the need |
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