What's cracking, everybody? Welcome back to the Cat and Cloud podcast. Here's a question for you.

Have you ever met anybody and within 30 seconds realized, yep, you and I, yep, we're on the same team.

We should definitely be friends. We're in the same zone. Our paths may be a little bit different,

but we're on a different version of essentially the same journey.

That's how I feel about the cats over at Caveman Coffee. This week, we sat down and talked to them.

We talked with Tate Fletcher, Lacey Mackey, and Joshua Brown. Now, Caveman, Caveman is,

let's see, they're really interesting. I think they're

brilliant in the branding arena. They've done an amazing job of creating a niche for themselves

in that health and fitness market in relation to coffee. But it's a lot deeper than that. So,

Tate, a lot of you will know Tate as an actor and a stuntman.

He's been in Breaking Bad,

Jurassic World,

John Wick.

Some of you might remember him from his MMA days and UFC days.

He's,

he's a big advocate of training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

He's a really active guy.

He's also one of the deeper thinkers that I've ever met. And if you

look at someone like this and you say, oh, here's like a bro who's super big and huge and just

works out all day and is a total meathead. That's not the case at all. His, the way he speaks

really moves me. It's beautiful. And you can tell he

spends a lot of time with his own thoughts thinking about things. And he's someone who really

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