In this episode, Alex had issues with her internet and fell off after one question, so we unfortunately just had to proceed without her.

So it just got in me. Sorry about that. Oh, So this week we have with us to talk about Luddism and what we should think about

Luddism, Gavin Mueller, who is a lecturer in media studies at the University of Amsterdam.

Welcome, Gavin.

Thank you.

So we, you know, we'll be talking about chapter 14, which is a very long chapter.

It talks about different dimensions of kind of legal and

extrilegal politics in British working class history. But you know when we

launch the podcast you I think you replied to us on Twitter actually Gavin like you have you

have to you have to let me guest on the letters and we can so we're now out that week and I

I have an inkling but I'm curious just like why what letters and means for you that leads you to

respond in that way. Yeah well I guess to self-promote a bit I have a book coming

thank you I will I have a book coming. Thank you. I will. I have a book

Kind of a short shorter book coming out on Luddism with first so next year, you know, pandemic situation.

We'll see how that plays out so little things are a little dicey in the publishing trade apparently but

but where I kind of take the concept and with its origins with the Luddites and I think

about how kind of technology plays a role in worker struggles and how worker struggles are often pitched against technology in various ways.

And what that actually means is I think

that in many cases it's seen as kind of incidental

or it's seen as a sort of backwards looking kind of tendency in struggles and I attempt to try to take it

seriously and I think actually one really big inspiration for my perspective on that is

EP Thompson who was part of a kind of

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